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First they came for the naturalised citizens... [20140131|09:10]
Mad Scientess Jane Expat
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I became a UK citizen last August.

Today, the UK government (ETA: House of Commons - it's not gone to the Lords yet) passed a law that permits naturalised UK citizens to be stripped of their citizenship.

Yes, it's aimed at a specific and relatively small group of people, e.g. "foreign-born terror suspects" who have been resisting deportation for years. But it's a terrible, terrible precedent to set. It makes people like me, who are, presumably, not considered terror suspects despite our participation in dubious things like having opinions on our blogs and our Twitter feeds, feel unwelcome and scared.

I find it even more distressing that this news barely makes the front page of the BBC News. And it turns up as "MPs reject Tory rebels' immigration amendment", which might lead one to believe that the portion of the immigration bill to which I'm referring here didn't pass. You have to click through to find out that "...MPs did vote in favour of Home Secretary Theresa May's plan to strip foreign-born terror suspects of UK citizenship, by 297 to 34."

If anyone needs me today...well, frankly, I'll just be in my corner, staring unhappily at my knees.

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[User Picture]From: dangermouse72
2014-01-31 09:37 (UTC)
But.....I bet you have nice knees?

Yeah, this government is doing some weird shit lately, what with the 'gagging' law being passed too now :-(
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2014-02-04 10:14 (UTC)
The gagging law is also appalling. In fact, the general atmosphere of appeasement-of-terrible-attitudes towards many things by the elected government is terrible.
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[User Picture]From: dangermouse72
2014-02-05 08:49 (UTC)
I agree. I'm not a great fan of the media/press, but I don't think a lot of people realise how far this gagging law goes and will affect them.
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[User Picture]From: dangermouse72
2014-01-31 09:38 (UTC)
As a UK citizen I guess you'll be able to vote now (whereas you couldn't before)?
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2014-02-04 10:15 (UTC)
Yes, I can now vote. The question is...who to vote for when everyone seems to be focused on appeasing the more radical (and highly distasteful) attitudes toward immigration, privacy and poverty?
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[User Picture]From: dangermouse72
2014-02-05 08:53 (UTC)
I have no idea, tbh. I think people voted Labour out because they seemed to be screwing things up, and just wanted a change, so voted the Tories back in almost as a reflex, just to have someone different, while forgetting their track record.

Next time around as people are so hacked off with this lot I wouldn't be surprised if we go straight back to a Labour government..

As (I think) The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band once sang/wrote, 'no matter who you vote for, the Government still gets in'.

I don't like it when people don't bother to vote, but sometimes it's not surprising, really.
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[User Picture]From: mysterysquid
2014-01-31 11:59 (UTC)
Ugh. It seems to be happening everywhere. As of September last year, we have a super conservative government with a real hate-on for refugees, poor people, and education, who have just today approved dredging on the Great Barrier Reef...
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[User Picture]From: dylsexia
2014-02-01 03:10 (UTC)
I know!

They closed 7 of 9 Canadian federal scientific libraries and dumpstered (what wasn't saved privately) the bulk of the research materials in them.

@nanila: I feel your pain. I've been having trouble with my residency status here and every time I get a letter from the government I'm expecting a "Get out of our fucking country, foreigner," letter.

*hug* You are an asset to the UK and they would sorely miss your considerable contributions to their nation!
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2014-02-04 10:17 (UTC)
Yes. It's depressing. The elected governments in many places presently seem determined to champion the cause of Very Short-Sighted Thinking.
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[User Picture]From: pax_athena
2014-01-31 18:27 (UTC)
Ugh, that's awful :( Being a naturalized citizen myself, I can *so* understand the insecurity and the fear. Somewhere in the back of my head there is always the feeling that I did screw something up in the process and that it's going to come out in the most inappropriate moment - there is no reason to think so and still the though is there. There is always the feeling of being ... second choice, less than the others, whatever. And who knows what comes next, after the terror suspects?

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[User Picture]From: nanila
2014-02-04 10:22 (UTC)
Yup. I don't know that you ever feel "secure" as a natrualised citizen, especially when the prevailing attitude towards immigration only ever gets as warm as "indifferent", and usually tends a lot more towards "vehemently opposed".
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[User Picture]From: melissa_maples
2014-02-01 10:46 (UTC)
Well that is... disturbing.
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2014-02-04 10:20 (UTC)
Yes, yes it is. My one hope is that the Lords strip this amendment from the bill. And it makes me sad to think that I'm looking to the Lords to save us from the vagaries of the present elected government.
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[User Picture]From: purplecthulhu
2014-02-01 16:59 (UTC)

This is at least partly in response to Theresa May being told by the high court she can;'t strip someone of their citizenship and then her turning round and doing it again the day after the verdict - anybody else who did that would be done very rapidly for contempt of court (and IMHO May should be done for it as well - let's see how she thinks of prison after a month or two in Bellmarsh).

It's also against international treaties against making people stateless.

It's a stupid law, emerging from special cases, and I hates it. But it's all part of how the Home Office has become the nasty ministry for anybody who is, thinks or does anything unusual, in this and the previous several parliaments. Time to sack the entire ministry if you ask me.
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2014-02-04 10:19 (UTC)
Let's replace it with the Ministry for Administrative Affairs.
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[User Picture]From: anthrokeight
2014-02-02 20:29 (UTC)
Oh my god. That is so, so wrong.


I am sorry.
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2014-02-04 10:18 (UTC)
Yes. There's still hope that the Lords will strip that amendment from the bill before it becomes law. But it's still a pretty revolting reflection of currently prevailing attitudes towards immigration.
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