The reason I don’t have to wait until October, when I’ll have been employed continuously for 4 years and 11 months? I’ve shacked up with an Englishman. As the domestic partner of a UK citizen, I qualify for permanent residency after 2 years of living with him.
YES YES this is exactly what I was asking you about the other day, why you don't just go ahead and apply for ILR. I never had a work visa, only a student visa and then an unmarried partner visa before my ILR. I was wondering why you hadn't done that but I didn't realise that you didn't know about it!
Now I understand why you were freaking out, and now you understand why I was baffled by your freaking out. I thought maybe I had it wrong and the bloke was not a UK citizen or something.
I understand what you were getting at now! I really didn't know you could get ILR based on domestic arrangements if you weren't married or in a certified civil partnership.
Hopefully this will work out in August.
It doesn't surprise me that most people on tier 1 visas are non-white. As I see it non British white people mostly fall into one of three categories:
1. Citizens of EU countries who don't need a visa
2. Americans, who mostly won't move to a UK academic post because they are far better paid where they are
3. Citizens from the "white Commonwealth", most of whom can rustle up one EU born grandparent and thus get a handy citizenship
That doesn't leave a lot. I think.
That's odd. I know stacks of them in Toronto.
I also know very few in NZ. More than one, but not that many.
Note also that if the grandparent you wish to trace lineage to happens to be from Britain then they have to be male. Grandmothers don't count as far as I know.
Wow, that's wonderfully archaic. And by "wonderful" I mean "stupidly patriarchal".
At least from NZ, a grandparent from the UK isn't enough for citizenship. All it gives me is Right of Abode in the UK. It does make it easier (I just have to prove I'm in work, or trying to get work, and won't be a burden on the state). But it doesn't get me EU citizenship AT ALL. I wish it did, it would be super useful.
And my situation isn't that common, honestly. Most white New Zealanders are at least 3rd generation, or possibly didn't come direct from Europe at all.
Interesting. I had the notion that most white New Zealanders weren't second-generation or less, but I didn't realize that even if you were, you couldn't get citizenship.
In a similar vein, the immigration consultant mentioned that it was very difficult for British persons to acquire American citizenship. "Huh?" I muttered, puzzled. The Sri Lankan-Australian colleague sitting next to me looked at me and said, "Er, the War of Independence?" "Oh right, THAT," I replied. Such a dope. :P
I got to chatting to a couple of other American scientists in attendance at the seminar. They moved to the UK on what they thought was going to be a temporary basis, but pretty much had the same reasons I did for wanting to stay - significant others or domestic partners who were British or EU citizens. Money certainly isn't a good reason to remain in the UK!
Immigration everywhere is weird. The rules are arcane. The bureaucrats can be Hell or unbelievably helpful depending on whether they like your (preferably white, middle class) face. I've been incredibly lucky. When I first went to get my Landed Immigrant visa for Canada (at the now closed consulate in Birmingham) I explained to the guy that I was engaged and he said to bring my fiancee along. He did her interview and stuck the papers in his desk drawer, telling me to fax the sponsorship forms to him as soon as I could get them done after arriving in Canada. I did and he issued a visa for my fiancee the same day.
Not much different with lemur_catta
. She applied for permanent residency and because she was living with me they issued a minister's permit allowing her to stay in the country while the application was processed. I contrast that with cassandre
's husband's utterly gruesome experience with the US INS.
Yeah. I am feeling super articulate about this. Argle bargle gah ack bleargh!! See? So full of erudite rage.
It's such a complex issue. It requires a lot of pondering of uncomfortable subjects to parse properly. I know I don't have the time to do it. Mostly I just know that the way things are feels wrong.
I feel like this is another statement that the UK simply doesn't want the trouble of being a world power again.
Faded glory seems to be enough to keep them warm at night (that and a cup of tea) and they are happy. And with the pound slipping just about everyone I know that has been in the UK from here is leaving. Even those with dual citizenship.
This sort of xenophobia is becoming unfortunately common as the economic situation bites and people become more "jobs for the locals". The "globally transferable knowledge economy" is becoming even more of a hollow shell than it once was.
That's a pretty long time to hang on to your post-imperial malaise. At some point you just have to get over it.
The "globally transferable knowledge economy" is becoming even more of a hollow shell than it once was.
The sad thing is, I really believed in it. I always thought that though relatively poor by first-world standards, brains and enthusiasm would let me earn the things I wanted - financial independence and the ability to travel and live abroad. Low interest rates, high inflation and increasing xenophobia are making this seem a lot less achievable than it did before.
Ain't that the truth.
This sort of stuff brings out my (generally well hidden) anarchical tendencies. I believe that sometime soon we (humanity) need to haev a serious look at ourselves and try a different tack.
So they are just reducing the number of those allowed in? And making it harder? It still seems silly to me that they would choose to go after skilled migrants. I suppose they didn't notice all the euro migrants that came in droves?
The good thing is you can stay :-D
Essentially, yes. As I said in the post, the Tier 1 scheme for new entrants will still allow you to pay to get into the country, but won't let you use brains and education. I think the only reason the Tier 1 and Tier 2 schemes are being targeted, honestly, is that there isn't much the government can do about European migration without pulling out of the EU, which would be incredibly difficult. They're going for an easy option to make it look like they're "doing something" about immigration, when in reality this is going to make very little difference to immigration statistics and do a fair bit of economic damage. There's a saying about cutting off your nose to spite your face that springs instantly to mind...