Immigration restrictions have never been about jobs. That's just the "respectable" language that's used to justify xenophobia and racism.
I wish I could call you cynical, but it's quite difficult to come up with an argument for immigration restrictions that doesn't boil down to, "We have more resources than most other countries, and we don't really want to share them."
I'm more cynical than that. I'm old enough to remember the Tories arguing for relaxing immigration rules for white Rhodesians while wanting them tightened for "people of an alien culture". Monty Python and Rowan Atkinson have both done really good pieces on immigration "I like curry... but now that we've got the recipe do they really need to stay".
I'm a light user of health services, since I'm rarely ill and the only things I normally go to see the doctor about are birth control and vaccinations. But allow me to sing the praises of the NHS (National Health Service). Socialized medicine is, in my opinion, bloody brilliant. It's really, really wonderful to be able to go to the doctor and not worry about how you're going to pay for it, because you already did - you paid your taxes.
Sounds like this would be a good letter to send in to the paper!
Much as I appreciate the implied compliment, oh hell no. I wouldn't want to have to cope with the fallout.
Tier 1 migrants thrown out. 2 weeks later: Tier 1 migrants sheepishly asked to return as no one can sort out what they were doing because they lack the education. :D
I don't think that's going to happen, but I suspect there will be an overhaul of the paperwork - which they just, after 5 years of tinkering, finally got into a reasonably comprehensible state. I would be willing to bet that the new system is going to be confusing, riddled with loopholes, and extremely slow to respond to queries and requests.
I would have to agree with you on this. Countries are looking for the wrong solutions to fix something that they broke. It's just a global catastrophe and I assume in the UK they want to blame the non-eu immigrants. What about all the EU citizens that flood the UK? Aren't they taking jobs from Britons?
As I'm sure you would agree the problem isn't migration. It goes well beyond that at this point.
I highly doubt you'll be tossed out of the country. Given what you do, your employer would be unlikely to find a Briton to replace you. In any case I want you to be able to stay in the place you call home. It would be rather unfair of them to knock you out.
Oh, never fear, these people hate the EU migrants as well. The ironic thing is that you'll hear people complaining about all these darned foreigners coming over and taking their jobs, and in the next breath they'll praise the services of their cheap Polish cleaner/plumber/electrician/roofer.
My least favourite thing, though, is when people complain to me about immigration and then when I raise an eyebrow, they say, "Oh, I don't mean you." O RLY? What's special about me? Is it the fluency in English or the paleness of my skin that makes me acceptable?
I do wonder about the fluency-of-English thing, mostly because I am currently doing language attitudes research re: accents. It would be very interesting if immigrants from English-speaking countries were "better" than ones from non-English-speaking countries. (Of course then you'd get into all kinds of weird confounds because I suspect migrants from English-speaking countries are in the minority and therefore potentially less threatening, and also there are probably class issues, but still.)
When it comes to dealing with people on the 'phone, I will certainly plead guilty to both accent prejudice and vocabulary prejudice, along with articulation prejudice. My ears run slower than many people's mouths anyway; add in an unfamiliar accent and it gets really tiresome, and I have been known to just give up on a 'phone call to a company helpline and dial again, in hopes getting someone easier to understand. =:o\
And then occasionally, I'll stop and reflect that being able to do so is a privelege that comes with still being able to live in the same land where I grew up.
If the person is a customer standing right in front of me, of course, I have to just bury my irritation deep inside, listen carefully, and ask politely & apologetically for a repeat or clarification of anything I've missed.
They do the same thing here. I hear people muttering about it all of the time.. Yet they continue to use the services of said immigrants over those of citizens. Hypocrisy in its finest form.
I think in the US at least, we complain more about non-English speaking immigrants. Well, excluding Western Europeans. There is a definitive dislike in this country for immigrants from Mexico, Central & South America, Africa & China. Now if you were to ask these same people what they felt about Europeans and Canadians, they have a higher opinion.
I agree with everything you said. FWIW, which is very little.
It's worth a lot to me. It's nice to know that not everyone hates immigrants!
Immigration is an ongoing shouting match in the US. The bizarre thing is, people get all heated up over skilled workers being given visas, as if companies are somehow importing cheap labor from overseas.
Let me tell you internet, importing labor from overseas is not cheap. I do not want to think about what it cost Extremely Large Software Company to bring my boyfriend over. They hired a company to do all his visa paperwork and because of the H1B lottery he didn't get a visa the first two times. So they did all the paperwork and paid the requisite fees three times. They also paid to move him from Ireland to the US, from the US to Canada, and from Canada back to the US (and paid for all the paperwork and fees for his Canadian work visa). And it isn't as if they pay him less than his US citizen counterparts now that they have him. Given all the trouble and expense they went to, I'm pretty sure if they'd been able to find an American with an equivalent skill set they'd have hired the American. Probably it is a lot less expensive to hire a bunch of Central and South American migrant workers to pick one's produce, yes, but it is WAY more expensive to bring in an immigrant software developer or electrical engineer than to hire an American one. They are not doing it for funsies.
But no, we don't need any skilled worker visas, those damned skilled workers are just taking jobs from hardworking Americans who deserve them.
tbh in the US I'm pretty sure 90% of the argument comes down to ZOMG BROWN PEOPLE, TAKING OUR WHITE PEOPLE JOBS, HDU, and I suspect it's similar in the UK.
Oh yes. I looked into having someone do my visa paperwork for me once. It turned out to double the cost of the visa, so I did it myself. I think it's safe to assume ELSC must have paid six times what a single visa would have cost for him. The only reason to do that is if it's the only option.
I don't think it's necessarily just brown people to whom those who are anti-immigration object. I think it's pretty much everybody. The amount of hatred for EU migrants (a lot of whom are white as they come) is pretty appalling.
Apparently the Irish were pretty cranky about all the people from Poland coming in and getting jobs in Ireland when the Irish economy was booming.
Now, of course, Ireland's economy is in the toilet and apparently Poland is doing pretty well, so they've all gone back. Somehow I do not think this was the solution Ireland had in mind.