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The concrete signs of violence. [20061011|22:00]
Mad Scientess Jane Expat
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Tonight, I was in a pub with imyril during the appalling England v. Croatia game. A middle-aged man with a shaved head walked in wearing tracksuit bottoms and an England t-shirt, carrying a beer in each hand. He sported symmetrical scars running from the corners of his mouth up his cheeks to the tops of his ears. It's a marking I'd seen before, but until I'd moved to this country, I didn't know what a Chelsea grin was. Acutely conscious of his presence, I felt myself on edge until he left the bar.

If I hadn't learned the history of hooliganism that lies behind such silent markers, I would have been blissfully ignorant. I would have had an undisturbed evening of drunken fun with my friend. Such is the price of cultural understanding, sometimes.
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[User Picture]From: 3g0
2006-10-11 22:20 (UTC)
I am reading Bill Buford's Among the Thugs right now, it's actually devoted to his traveling/following the Manchester United hooligans. The way he delivers most of the book makes it seem outlandish & brutish, but also somewhat comical in action...until the part where the guy who scalps them tickets ended up being stabbed 3 times in a train, that is.
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[User Picture]From: bellelaqueen
2006-10-11 22:21 (UTC)
It took us ages to get used to the different vibe you get in pubs here compared to back home. I think the Monsta and I were on edge for the first couple of years we were here. There's definitely a violent undercurrent sometimes (whether or not a scuffle).

Funnily enough, what I missed most while touring the States was the homely little British pub (we did find one in Santa Monica to watch some Premiership Football though...*s*).
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2006-10-12 07:28 (UTC)
Watching Premiership football at 7:30 AM while chowing down on bacon, sausage and beans is a bit of a surreal experience, no? ;-) Santa Monica is full of expat Brits. If you ever find yourself in the eastern part of LA, there's an English pub in Pasadena called Lucky Baldwin's. In San Diego, there's Shakespeare's. You can find one in most cities in CA and NY, I think.
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[User Picture]From: danaid_luv
2006-10-11 23:24 (UTC)
Um...I'm sat here with one hand over my mouth, more than a little horrified. Never heard of such a thing, and it's...a 'hurts & nauseous down deep where you can't see it' sort of horrified. Geez. GEEZ.
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[User Picture]From: chickenfeet2003
2006-10-11 23:31 (UTC)
Reminds me about the joke about scars where the punchline is "post mortem".
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[User Picture]From: namey
2006-10-11 23:35 (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: nanila
2006-10-12 07:09 (UTC)
Ooh, that's a nasty juxtaposition. I think one of my favorite parts of the description itself is the bit where they describe the procedure as an "unpleasant form of assault." You know, as opposed to all those pleasant forms of assault.
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[User Picture]From: slutbunwalla
2006-10-12 05:29 (UTC)
How much experimentation did that take I wonder?
Ok I don't want to know.
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[User Picture]From: nimoloth
2006-10-12 09:53 (UTC)
Eugh - that's disgusting. I wish I hadn't read it now.
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[User Picture]From: lesyeuxouverts
2006-10-12 13:13 (UTC)
I feel sick. The price of education ?
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[User Picture]From: repoman
2006-10-12 14:54 (UTC)
Who thinks this sicko shit up? Seriously, how did somebody figure out a credit card in the mouth can do this? I think some crazy thoughts from time to time but I sure as hell don't run out and try them on people I dislike...


and for the record, that was one of the worst games I've seen England play.
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