Good grav(er)y, I want that song, Pro-Test
2005-11-16 15:30 (UTC)
My god, if it hadn't taken place in SF, I would be convinced I'd been sleazed up by that guy myself.
Sunscreen and speed, breakfast of champions.
Only real cybergoths get the glowy eyes.
Also, the little 'stache, it kills me. He's so hard, oh yeah.
Does that really happen?
Were those goths from Orange County? Because I thought only people from Orange County challenged the urban oppressed to dance wars.
Okay, I'm replying to my own comment because I'm actually confused.
Which part of that video is "krumping"? Is it just the last bit where the two doods come out and start having standing siezures? Or is it the whole "battle dancing" phenomenon? Is there some hidden skill to what they were doing? What am I missing?
Because, like, everyone gives way to those two guys, but the other stuff that was going on was much more impressive.
The part at the end with the two guys in camo is krumping. Yeah, it looks like standing seizures, and yeah, there is a hidden skill to what they're doing. For one thing, they're moving incredibly fast, and they have complete control over what they're doing. For another, they're pretending to fight, with each other and with others, and at that speed, pretending to fight without actually hurting other people is way more difficult than it looks. On video you're always going to be convinced that it's possible the tape is being sped up, so krumping's much more visually impressive in person. But I think part of the point of having the cars and the other people visible in this video during the krumping is to show that holy shit, they really are moving that fast.
Considering that it's a music video and we all know how realistic those are, I doubt there are many actual, spontaneous dance-offs between b-boys and cybergoths, no. And dance-offs where the goths win? Unlikely. If they hadn't had the krumpers on their team, no way. :-P
you could add it!
I think the goth boy with the dreads should get extra points for being able to do those moves in pleather.
I would think that the Patent Leather/PVC would be the most problematic since they have no give... you'd either stop-dead (in leather) or you'd just bust your clothing (in PVC).
Sure, it wasn't -tight- shiny clothing... but still... ballsy.
I don't really know what to say, though. I mean, other than, "A graver, or goth-raver, was a person who, in the mid-1990s, would dress in typical gothic fashions, attend the illegal dance parties know as raves, and dance around in incongruously perky fashion." That's pretty much it.
I didn't think about that. That's a good point. I wonder if he broke any trousers during the making of the video.
That was totally worth the half hour or so it took to download the video. Man, I wish I could move like that. T and I spend the rest of our evening trying to read up more about krumping and to find more videos with examples. Hidden talent is right, I can't really see what they are doing, they are moving too fast and the clips are too short. Seems like a lot of control of the torso as well, like bellydancing?
There's one music video that makes a little story out of krumping. Check out the Chemical Brothers "Galvanize" video. It follows three boys who paint up their faces in clown makeup and sneak into a battle zone, and you can actually watch the dancers for quite a while. I agree that there's lots of torso control. Those people are seriously cut. The Missy Elliott video that's mentioned in the Wiki article doesn't show much krumping. A Shakira video ("Suerte") that's not mentioned in the Wiki features some close-ups of dancing that looks a lot like krumping, I think.
I really want to see David LaChappelle's documentary "Rize" now.
Yeah, me too! Doubt it will be showing anytime soon where I am, but looks like I'll be taking a another couple of trips to LA. Got my Mirrormask fix in this last trip. Have a feeling T and I will spend another evening trying to download these videos...
that. was. awesome.
thank you for posting that. ha! love it!
you just have to create a wikipedia entry for graver then, ps.
Wasn't it? I loved it! The ending was ridiculous.
I don't know about creating an entry for graver. There isn't much to say, really. "A graver, or goth-raver, was a person who, in the mid-1990s, would dress in typical gothic style, attend the illegal dance parties know as raves, and dance around in incongruously perky fashion." I mean, that's it, really.